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		<title>By: Sheila</title>
		<link>http://aspierhetor.com/2010/07/01/teaching-disability-studies/comment-page-1/#comment-2756</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I come to this discussion late but I am in the process of finishing the development of a six session course introducing disability studies to occupational therapists so this blog post interested me.  I may ask you more about course development at a later time.  

I just wanted to comment on Sarah&#039;s critique of &quot;Look Me in the Eye&quot;.  I also disliked the book and didn&#039;t even finish it.  It felt like a boys&#039; book.  Like when rock guitarists or drummers go on and on and on for a solo.  The book gave me that same feeling.

Your blog is like a gold mine to me.  No a treasure chest or the tickle trunk.  Canadians will know what I mean by the tickle trunk - from an old children&#039;s show called Mr. Dress-up.

Enough blabbing.  Thanks to both of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I come to this discussion late but I am in the process of finishing the development of a six session course introducing disability studies to occupational therapists so this blog post interested me.  I may ask you more about course development at a later time.  </p>
<p>I just wanted to comment on Sarah&#8217;s critique of &#8220;Look Me in the Eye&#8221;.  I also disliked the book and didn&#8217;t even finish it.  It felt like a boys&#8217; book.  Like when rock guitarists or drummers go on and on and on for a solo.  The book gave me that same feeling.</p>
<p>Your blog is like a gold mine to me.  No a treasure chest or the tickle trunk.  Canadians will know what I mean by the tickle trunk &#8211; from an old children&#8217;s show called Mr. Dress-up.</p>
<p>Enough blabbing.  Thanks to both of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Savannah Logsdon-Breakstone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Savannah Logsdon-Breakstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;m jealous of your students! Wish I lived someplace where auditing this would be feasible... but 4 hours is definitely too far a drive for that. *smiles*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;m jealous of your students! Wish I lived someplace where auditing this would be feasible&#8230; but 4 hours is definitely too far a drive for that. *smiles*</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The course sounds lovely!  It also makes me even more interested on pushing for an elect course that does Lives with Disabilities in Literature.  (Currently I&#039;m taking Women&#039;s Lives in Literature as part of my graduate studies, but I can also design my own courses for me to take--not sure how yet, but I think it&#039;s worth investigating.)

I&#039;m glad you were able to use my suggestion--and, of course, you brought up so much more than I&#039;d considered!

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The course sounds lovely!  It also makes me even more interested on pushing for an elect course that does Lives with Disabilities in Literature.  (Currently I&#8217;m taking Women&#8217;s Lives in Literature as part of my graduate studies, but I can also design my own courses for me to take&#8211;not sure how yet, but I think it&#8217;s worth investigating.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you were able to use my suggestion&#8211;and, of course, you brought up so much more than I&#8217;d considered!</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, wow.  That feels pretty great.

I agree with you about Holliday-Willey.  One reason I suggested it is that it seems to be one of the most frequently-mentioned memoirs, certainly in regards to the Asperger&#039;s label in particular.  Unfortunately, most of the most popular books tend to be of that mold.  Another popular one, though I really, really dislike this one for reasons which aren&#039;t entirely rational, is John Elder Robison&#039;s &quot;Look Me in the Eye.&quot;  Again, it&#039;s quite medical model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, wow.  That feels pretty great.</p>
<p>I agree with you about Holliday-Willey.  One reason I suggested it is that it seems to be one of the most frequently-mentioned memoirs, certainly in regards to the Asperger&#8217;s label in particular.  Unfortunately, most of the most popular books tend to be of that mold.  Another popular one, though I really, really dislike this one for reasons which aren&#8217;t entirely rational, is John Elder Robison&#8217;s &#8220;Look Me in the Eye.&#8221;  Again, it&#8217;s quite medical model.</p>
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		<title>By: Aspie Rhetor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aspie Rhetor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah: Thanks! I&#039;ve done a blog carnival assignment twice now in the Intro to Disability Studies course that I&#039;ve taught, and your blog is one that consistently appears (positively, of course) in student essays. 

Also: thank you thank you thank you for the book suggestions. I&#039;ve been debating about Holliday-Willey&#039;s book... because it struck me, like you say about autie-biography trends, as a book that often matches up major life events to bullet points in diagnostic manuals. I might be acting too harsh, though; what I might do is see if there are one or two chapters that I can assign by themselves.

I&#039;d forgotten about Paradiz&#039;s book, and will definitely add that one. And for some reason, I wasn&#039;t aware that Tim Page wrote a book! I remember his essay by the same name appearing in the New Yorker some years back. I&#039;ll have to check out the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah: Thanks! I&#8217;ve done a blog carnival assignment twice now in the Intro to Disability Studies course that I&#8217;ve taught, and your blog is one that consistently appears (positively, of course) in student essays. </p>
<p>Also: thank you thank you thank you for the book suggestions. I&#8217;ve been debating about Holliday-Willey&#8217;s book&#8230; because it struck me, like you say about autie-biography trends, as a book that often matches up major life events to bullet points in diagnostic manuals. I might be acting too harsh, though; what I might do is see if there are one or two chapters that I can assign by themselves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d forgotten about Paradiz&#8217;s book, and will definitely add that one. And for some reason, I wasn&#8217;t aware that Tim Page wrote a book! I remember his essay by the same name appearing in the New Yorker some years back. I&#8217;ll have to check out the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 02:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your course sounds fabulous, and I&#039;m sorry I&#039;m not able to take it myself.  And I&#039;m quite chuffed to be included in your syllabus.  :)

Some memoirs you don&#039;t have on your list that I like include Valerie Paradiz (Elijah&#039;s Cup), Tim Page (Parallel Play), and to a lesser extent, Liane Holliday-Wiley (Pretending to Be Normal). I think Tim Page&#039;s work is especially interesting and rare in the realm of autie-biography.  It&#039;s typical for autistic memoirists to constantly explain their lives in terms of the DSM criteria and common scientific ideas/stereotypes about autism.  Page just tells his story, and when doing so runs the risk of people accusing him of not being really autistic (as many Amazon reviewers do).  It&#039;s really quite interesting and raises some interesting questions about authority and credibility that you&#039;ve been talking about in the comments.  Page was also very nice when I met him at an event several months ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your course sounds fabulous, and I&#8217;m sorry I&#8217;m not able to take it myself.  And I&#8217;m quite chuffed to be included in your syllabus.  <img src='http://aspierhetor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Some memoirs you don&#8217;t have on your list that I like include Valerie Paradiz (Elijah&#8217;s Cup), Tim Page (Parallel Play), and to a lesser extent, Liane Holliday-Wiley (Pretending to Be Normal). I think Tim Page&#8217;s work is especially interesting and rare in the realm of autie-biography.  It&#8217;s typical for autistic memoirists to constantly explain their lives in terms of the DSM criteria and common scientific ideas/stereotypes about autism.  Page just tells his story, and when doing so runs the risk of people accusing him of not being really autistic (as many Amazon reviewers do).  It&#8217;s really quite interesting and raises some interesting questions about authority and credibility that you&#8217;ve been talking about in the comments.  Page was also very nice when I met him at an event several months ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Aspie Rhetor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aspie Rhetor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 01:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just some further musing on what I&#039;m also now considering: I&#039;m thinking of giving students a choice between reading &lt;i&gt;Curious Incident&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Speed of Dark&lt;/i&gt;. (Mostly because it&#039;s very possible that students have read Curious in another disability studies course at OSU.)

Also, I&#039;m thinking of having them read Burke&#039;s Terministic Screens; and I&#039;d also like to have them read/view something that details why functioning labels = epic fail.

Finally: I&#039;m creating a longer memoir list and will ask students to choose one. So far I&#039;ve got Isaacson&#039;s The Horse Boy, Savarese&#039;s Reasonable People, Prince-Hughes&#039; Songs of the Gorilla Nation, Williams&#039; Nobody Nowhere, Wilson&#039;s Weather Reports from the Autism Front, Grandin&#039;s Emergence. Other suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just some further musing on what I&#8217;m also now considering: I&#8217;m thinking of giving students a choice between reading <i>Curious Incident</i> and <i>Speed of Dark</i>. (Mostly because it&#8217;s very possible that students have read Curious in another disability studies course at OSU.)</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m thinking of having them read Burke&#8217;s Terministic Screens; and I&#8217;d also like to have them read/view something that details why functioning labels = epic fail.</p>
<p>Finally: I&#8217;m creating a longer memoir list and will ask students to choose one. So far I&#8217;ve got Isaacson&#8217;s The Horse Boy, Savarese&#8217;s Reasonable People, Prince-Hughes&#8217; Songs of the Gorilla Nation, Williams&#8217; Nobody Nowhere, Wilson&#8217;s Weather Reports from the Autism Front, Grandin&#8217;s Emergence. Other suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Aspie Rhetor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aspie Rhetor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin: Thanks for the link! So glad to see that there are multimedia pieces there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin: Thanks for the link! So glad to see that there are multimedia pieces there.</p>
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		<title>By: Aspie Rhetor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aspie Rhetor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephanie: Basically, this class is the result of a &quot;contest&quot; to teach a section of English 275, which is the department&#039;s special topics in literature course. This past year, they offered two sections to graduate students, and anyone interested in teaching their &quot;dream course&quot; needed to propose a class topic with a mock syllabus. I won the fall 2010 slot with my autism proposal; another grad student won the spring 2010 course with vampires as a topic. I&#039;m not sure how many grad students applied for the slots -- but generally speaking, the special topics course isn&#039;t something that we all get to teach a lot of.

I will say, though, that there are other ways to teach towards one&#039;s interests in my department. Our first-year writing courses are themed courses, and I&#039;ve always taught it with disability as a topic. (It&#039;s much different teaching a writing course themed in disability than it is teaching a straight-up disability studies course, though -- with the former, you get students who are required to take your course and who may or may not have any interest in the course theme; with the latter, you get students who are doing a DS minor or who have a defined interest in DS. This isn&#039;t to say that one group is better than the other -- just that they involve very different approaches).

What you say about credibility (ethos) is really important, I think -- and it&#039;s very much key to the diverse discourse on autism. Because I&#039;m a rhetoric person, I always seem to involve rhetorical appeals (ethos, pathos, logos) into discussion when I&#039;m teaching, no matter the course. What I always marvel over is how many (not all) of my students interpret credibility when it comes to autobiography and cognitive/mental disabilities -- as if these &quot;sorts&quot; of disabilities lessen an individual&#039;s credibility. It also brings up issues of how we understand what credibility *means*, what rhetoric *means*. 

I think you&#039;ve convinced me to put credibility as a course topic heading for a class period or two!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie: Basically, this class is the result of a &#8220;contest&#8221; to teach a section of English 275, which is the department&#8217;s special topics in literature course. This past year, they offered two sections to graduate students, and anyone interested in teaching their &#8220;dream course&#8221; needed to propose a class topic with a mock syllabus. I won the fall 2010 slot with my autism proposal; another grad student won the spring 2010 course with vampires as a topic. I&#8217;m not sure how many grad students applied for the slots &#8212; but generally speaking, the special topics course isn&#8217;t something that we all get to teach a lot of.</p>
<p>I will say, though, that there are other ways to teach towards one&#8217;s interests in my department. Our first-year writing courses are themed courses, and I&#8217;ve always taught it with disability as a topic. (It&#8217;s much different teaching a writing course themed in disability than it is teaching a straight-up disability studies course, though &#8212; with the former, you get students who are required to take your course and who may or may not have any interest in the course theme; with the latter, you get students who are doing a DS minor or who have a defined interest in DS. This isn&#8217;t to say that one group is better than the other &#8212; just that they involve very different approaches).</p>
<p>What you say about credibility (ethos) is really important, I think &#8212; and it&#8217;s very much key to the diverse discourse on autism. Because I&#8217;m a rhetoric person, I always seem to involve rhetorical appeals (ethos, pathos, logos) into discussion when I&#8217;m teaching, no matter the course. What I always marvel over is how many (not all) of my students interpret credibility when it comes to autobiography and cognitive/mental disabilities &#8212; as if these &#8220;sorts&#8221; of disabilities lessen an individual&#8217;s credibility. It also brings up issues of how we understand what credibility *means*, what rhetoric *means*. </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve convinced me to put credibility as a course topic heading for a class period or two!</p>
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		<title>By: Robin McLeod, PhD, LP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin McLeod, PhD, LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 07:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might be interested in materials at this link if you haven&#039;t yet found them:

http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/2010/being-autistic/

Thank you for posting.  Your class sounds fascinating.  I wish I lived close enough to take it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be interested in materials at this link if you haven&#8217;t yet found them:</p>
<p><a href="http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/2010/being-autistic/" rel="nofollow">http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/2010/being-autistic/</a></p>
<p>Thank you for posting.  Your class sounds fascinating.  I wish I lived close enough to take it!</p>
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