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		<title>Comment on But I Never Think of You As Disabled! Accessing Paternalism, Erasure, and Other Happy Feel-Good Theories by Bard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 13:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Whatever you say about autism may have little to do with him. He is just finding his voice.&lt;/i&gt;

This is discounting and echo backs the &quot;You&#039;re HFA therefore you don&#039;t count&quot; argument that parents use. I am sure your son already has a voice, not the one that you expect from him. But it&#039;s there. I notice the voices of both severe and passing children in the classrooms I work in. They speak in dynamic and not always appropriate ways but I know they are communicating (even if I results with head phones being yanked out of my ears by one student who does it and flaps his hands.)

You&#039;re right Mel and I are not like your son. I am 25 year old adult and transgender male and Mel is a married woman. I am not a child anymore (as much as the rest of the Autism Community begs to differ) I am still autistic, and my strife and frustrations still echo your kids. I have been held down by my SO while having self injurious meltdowns, I head bang, tear paper up, chew on everything I can grab. Yet what Mel or what I say apparently is discounted because I am not a child and I can hold a part time job and keep a lover. It&#039;s ridiculous, it echoes the same sort of &quot;Not trans enough&quot; rhetoric because I am not on hormones yet. 

I don&#039;t understand this idea that parents can compare their child to an adult and it&#039;s valid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Whatever you say about autism may have little to do with him. He is just finding his voice.</i></p>
<p>This is discounting and echo backs the &#8220;You&#8217;re HFA therefore you don&#8217;t count&#8221; argument that parents use. I am sure your son already has a voice, not the one that you expect from him. But it&#8217;s there. I notice the voices of both severe and passing children in the classrooms I work in. They speak in dynamic and not always appropriate ways but I know they are communicating (even if I results with head phones being yanked out of my ears by one student who does it and flaps his hands.)</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right Mel and I are not like your son. I am 25 year old adult and transgender male and Mel is a married woman. I am not a child anymore (as much as the rest of the Autism Community begs to differ) I am still autistic, and my strife and frustrations still echo your kids. I have been held down by my SO while having self injurious meltdowns, I head bang, tear paper up, chew on everything I can grab. Yet what Mel or what I say apparently is discounted because I am not a child and I can hold a part time job and keep a lover. It&#8217;s ridiculous, it echoes the same sort of &#8220;Not trans enough&#8221; rhetoric because I am not on hormones yet. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand this idea that parents can compare their child to an adult and it&#8217;s valid.</p>
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		<title>Comment on But I Never Think of You As Disabled! Accessing Paternalism, Erasure, and Other Happy Feel-Good Theories by Naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 01:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you on these points.  I take my 3 spectrum children into events like a bull in a china shop and expect people to accept our place there.  And I am pretty sure I have a look that says &#039;go ahead, say something, I&#039;m about to go off my nut anyway.  It should be on someone who richly deserves it.&#039;

What I wanted to point out is regarding your picture.  That the shoe is on the other foot with regards to my most affected son.  Whatever you say about autism may have little to do with him.  He is just finding his voice.  It is the same as me talking about how autism affects you without consulting you.  We all need to proceed without presuming we &#039;know.&#039;  I have no misconceptions that he will be &#039;normal.&#039;  But I have every hope that his voice will be loud.  And true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on these points.  I take my 3 spectrum children into events like a bull in a china shop and expect people to accept our place there.  And I am pretty sure I have a look that says &#8216;go ahead, say something, I&#8217;m about to go off my nut anyway.  It should be on someone who richly deserves it.&#8217;</p>
<p>What I wanted to point out is regarding your picture.  That the shoe is on the other foot with regards to my most affected son.  Whatever you say about autism may have little to do with him.  He is just finding his voice.  It is the same as me talking about how autism affects you without consulting you.  We all need to proceed without presuming we &#8216;know.&#8217;  I have no misconceptions that he will be &#8216;normal.&#8217;  But I have every hope that his voice will be loud.  And true.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I stim, therefore I am [Loud Hands Blogaround] by Madmother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madmother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 21:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to show this to my 14 year old who stims a lot.

I love how you expressed &quot;My body is narrating...&quot;

Off to tell him to embrace his body being lively! Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to show this to my 14 year old who stims a lot.</p>
<p>I love how you expressed &#8220;My body is narrating&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Off to tell him to embrace his body being lively! Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I stim, therefore I am [Loud Hands Blogaround] by Jett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 18:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a mommy who wants her boy to be who he is, this is encouraging to me...to stick it out when others might stare, to allow him to be who he is even when I worry that he won&#039;t be accepted...I will love him no matter what and I pray that in my loving him, in my showing him that I believe God made Him on purpose, he will love himself and be himself in all ways, all the time.  You&#039;re beautiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a mommy who wants her boy to be who he is, this is encouraging to me&#8230;to stick it out when others might stare, to allow him to be who he is even when I worry that he won&#8217;t be accepted&#8230;I will love him no matter what and I pray that in my loving him, in my showing him that I believe God made Him on purpose, he will love himself and be himself in all ways, all the time.  You&#8217;re beautiful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I stim, therefore I am [Loud Hands Blogaround] by Ictus75</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ictus75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 17:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BEAUTIFUL! Both the video &amp; you. Be yourself, stay yourself—you are perfectly made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BEAUTIFUL! Both the video &amp; you. Be yourself, stay yourself—you are perfectly made.</p>
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		<title>Comment on That&#8217;s just your autism talking (and other phrases that shouldn&#8217;t appear in an autism essay) by sanabituranima</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanabituranima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 20:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Just... wow.
So sorry this happened to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Just&#8230; wow.<br />
So sorry this happened to you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Socializing through silence by You can’t be what you can’t see &#8211; world autism acceptance day &#124; Outrunning The Storm</title>
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		<dc:creator>You can’t be what you can’t see &#8211; world autism acceptance day &#124; Outrunning The Storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 05:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] aspie rhetor:  Socializing through silence [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Teaching disability studies by Sheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I come to this discussion late but I am in the process of finishing the development of a six session course introducing disability studies to occupational therapists so this blog post interested me.  I may ask you more about course development at a later time.  

I just wanted to comment on Sarah&#039;s critique of &quot;Look Me in the Eye&quot;.  I also disliked the book and didn&#039;t even finish it.  It felt like a boys&#039; book.  Like when rock guitarists or drummers go on and on and on for a solo.  The book gave me that same feeling.

Your blog is like a gold mine to me.  No a treasure chest or the tickle trunk.  Canadians will know what I mean by the tickle trunk - from an old children&#039;s show called Mr. Dress-up.

Enough blabbing.  Thanks to both of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I come to this discussion late but I am in the process of finishing the development of a six session course introducing disability studies to occupational therapists so this blog post interested me.  I may ask you more about course development at a later time.  </p>
<p>I just wanted to comment on Sarah&#8217;s critique of &#8220;Look Me in the Eye&#8221;.  I also disliked the book and didn&#8217;t even finish it.  It felt like a boys&#8217; book.  Like when rock guitarists or drummers go on and on and on for a solo.  The book gave me that same feeling.</p>
<p>Your blog is like a gold mine to me.  No a treasure chest or the tickle trunk.  Canadians will know what I mean by the tickle trunk &#8211; from an old children&#8217;s show called Mr. Dress-up.</p>
<p>Enough blabbing.  Thanks to both of you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I stim, therefore I am [Loud Hands Blogaround] by Laurentius Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurentius Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 03:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the most part I do allow my hands that freedom, though quite oft they will take it for themselves whether &quot;I&quot; will it or no. Gawd only knows what people think, though I suspect after a while they just stop noticing. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL0HH3DoUGs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part I do allow my hands that freedom, though quite oft they will take it for themselves whether &#8220;I&#8221; will it or no. Gawd only knows what people think, though I suspect after a while they just stop noticing.<br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://aspierhetor.com/2012/01/26/i-stim-therefore-i-am-loud-hands-blogaround/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/NL0HH3DoUGs/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on That&#8217;s just your autism talking (and other phrases that shouldn&#8217;t appear in an autism essay) by Laurentius Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurentius Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 03:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I am back again to let my autism do the talking, it always does, autism speaks as they say :) which reminds me of the time I had a run in with the academic powers that be, I hope they are not surveilling me now, as part of the terms I came to were an agreement not to post anything that could vicariously involve them in a lawsuit, after I posted something judged to be injudicious regarding an incident that occurred during my engagement as a visiting lecturer. Well you only have to look at my previous comment to realise that I may have been rather robust in some statements I made, enough to &quot;frighten the horses&quot; anyway, as if I were not well known for making robust statements of the kind in equally &quot;inappropriate&quot; places and times, which I am rather good at. Nonetheless although I have not been re-engaged as a visiting lecturer since, I think I am in academic good standing so far as my research goes, and I would say in good academic standing elsewhere despite of my &quot;quirks&quot; 

I don&#039;t know what the processes were that brought the powers that be to excercise an academic hammer of the magnitude you have described in this excercise, they would seem to be outside my own experience at my current uni, where in the aftermath of my disciplinary experience never mind what offence I had caused the University had also failed to ensure that the incident did not happen because I had been given inadequate support at that time and a stalemate or gentleman&#039;s agreement ensued. 

I have given a number of lectures now on autistic rights and the social model of disability, to various groups, sometimes it has been well received, sometimes less so, and that has as much to do with the different characteristics of the respective audiences than anything else I can think of. It is always my autism talking, I am my autism, it is me, it is MY autism not yours or anybody else&#039;s, I&#039;m not a stereotype or straw man I am my own particular expression of what I am, and that is the way it should be. To borrow a concept from last years Autscape Theme. I own my autism and it&#039;s meaning, not those who would construct it to be something else and it speaks all over the place, both bidden and unbidden. It always has something to say that should be listened to.

We simply should not be taking this bullshit from anywhere that privileges an NT cognition as being magically more authentic or correct than our own. An academia that does that, has by so doing relinquished all objectivity and credibility.

It&#039;s a long time since Francesca Happe, did an academic character assassination on Temple Grandin&#039;s and Donna Williams writing, she would not do that now. She has heard my autism answer that. It&#039;s progress of a kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am back again to let my autism do the talking, it always does, autism speaks as they say <img src='http://aspierhetor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  which reminds me of the time I had a run in with the academic powers that be, I hope they are not surveilling me now, as part of the terms I came to were an agreement not to post anything that could vicariously involve them in a lawsuit, after I posted something judged to be injudicious regarding an incident that occurred during my engagement as a visiting lecturer. Well you only have to look at my previous comment to realise that I may have been rather robust in some statements I made, enough to &#8220;frighten the horses&#8221; anyway, as if I were not well known for making robust statements of the kind in equally &#8220;inappropriate&#8221; places and times, which I am rather good at. Nonetheless although I have not been re-engaged as a visiting lecturer since, I think I am in academic good standing so far as my research goes, and I would say in good academic standing elsewhere despite of my &#8220;quirks&#8221; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what the processes were that brought the powers that be to excercise an academic hammer of the magnitude you have described in this excercise, they would seem to be outside my own experience at my current uni, where in the aftermath of my disciplinary experience never mind what offence I had caused the University had also failed to ensure that the incident did not happen because I had been given inadequate support at that time and a stalemate or gentleman&#8217;s agreement ensued. </p>
<p>I have given a number of lectures now on autistic rights and the social model of disability, to various groups, sometimes it has been well received, sometimes less so, and that has as much to do with the different characteristics of the respective audiences than anything else I can think of. It is always my autism talking, I am my autism, it is me, it is MY autism not yours or anybody else&#8217;s, I&#8217;m not a stereotype or straw man I am my own particular expression of what I am, and that is the way it should be. To borrow a concept from last years Autscape Theme. I own my autism and it&#8217;s meaning, not those who would construct it to be something else and it speaks all over the place, both bidden and unbidden. It always has something to say that should be listened to.</p>
<p>We simply should not be taking this bullshit from anywhere that privileges an NT cognition as being magically more authentic or correct than our own. An academia that does that, has by so doing relinquished all objectivity and credibility.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a long time since Francesca Happe, did an academic character assassination on Temple Grandin&#8217;s and Donna Williams writing, she would not do that now. She has heard my autism answer that. It&#8217;s progress of a kind.</p>
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